DV Capture Problem – noise in picture - SOLVED :-)
When I try to capture from my Sony PC2e to my computer I get noise into the captured file as illustrated in the 3 frames below. This noise occurs every 20 seconds to 5 minutes. I believe this is also known as digital dropouts or glitches.
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I use Windows 2000, ASUS motherboard with AMD 1.2GHz processor, 256 Mb RAM. FireWire card is OHCI compliant, Wincan WTC-7000b, http://www.wincan.com.tw/wtc-7000b.htm.
Change the FireWire card - that will fix the problem! I changed the WinCan WTC-7000b card to a Pinnacle System StudioDV card - and voila, the problem disappeared!
July 4th 2001:
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Summary |
Detail |
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DirectX |
I have updated to the DirectX 8a package from Microsoft, including the Digital Video Update for DirectX - http://www.microsoft.com/directx/homeuser/downloads/default.asp. |
No result. |
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Capture program? |
I have tried to capture with Adobe Premiere, Sonic
Foundry Capture and MGI VideoWave III. The problem occurs in all three
programs. |
No result. |
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IRQ sharing, ACPI? |
Some FireWire cards need their own IRQ. Under
Windows 2000 ACPI share IRQs causing the problem. http://www.stevemcd.redhotant.com/win2000.htm. |
Might be the problem. Try to change FW card!
Many has reported that you can share IRQ using ACPI under w2k without
any problem. |
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Disk
defragmentation |
I tried to defragment my disks. First the disk
that contains the captured results. Then the Windows 2000 system disk.
Check http://www.dvereview.com/dveboard/messages/3829.html
for information. |
No changes on capture
disk. Windows 2000 disk no
changes! |
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FireWire card based on TI
chipset? |
According to a posting in rec.video.desktop
FireWire cards based on non-TI chipsets have this problem. My card is
based on Ali+Realtek chipset! Also read http://videobuyersguide.com/capturecards/IEEE1394cards.html |
To be investigated!. Might be related to IRQ
sharing, ACPI problem as described above!
StudioDV based on TI chipset. |
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W2k OHCI drivers |
Should we use the Microsoft OHCI drivers or Texas
Instruments? |
No action taken. Card not based on TI chipset -
stay with Microsoft.
Pinnacle Systems StudioDV uses TI drivers - not Microsofts! In fact the
manual recommend to use TI drivers in certain instances. So try to change
to TI drivers instead of Microsoft if similar problem is
found! |
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DMA enabled |
Ensure harddisks are DMA enabled. http://www.wwug.com/cgi-bin/setframe.pl?http://216.246.51.202/forums/adobe_premiere/000408113446.htm.
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Already
enabled. |
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IRQ problem |
According to some newsgroups, the FireWire card should be installed on a “high IRQ number”. It is also recommended to stop potential devices
that is also on that IRQ port. |
Mine is on IRQ 9. Check ACPI above - this might be the explanation! My USB serial port is too – removed it from my
hardware configuration. No change. Had to keep ATI Radeon All in Wonder
graphics card in hardware configuration - might be explanation. IRQ
sharing IRQ 9 as described in ACPI
above! |
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Stop system programs etc |
I stopped almost all utilities on Windows 2000, and at the same time disabled net-card, sound card etc. |
No change. |
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Harddisks on different IDE
controllers. |
On most motherboards you’ll find an IDE controller
with two controllers, where you can mount one master and one slave on
each. It is recommended to mount the harddisks on each controller as
master, and with the CD-rom as slave. This is currently not my configuration – I have
the two harddrives on the same IDE controller. Will CD-Roms support DMA,
or slow down the harddisks? |
To be investigated. Change harddisks to their own IDE
controller. |
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Problem on tape? |
I do not believe it is a problem on the tape. If I try to capture the same section over and over again, the noise does not occur in the same place every time. |
Not likely. |
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Tape quality |
It might be related to the DV tape - http://www.dv.com/db_area/community/Forum2/HTML/000175.html. It might also be related to the camera - http://www.dv.com/db_area/community/Forum7/HTML/000103.html. Nothing to do about it! http://www.wwug.com/cgi-bin/setframe.pl?http://216.246.51.202/forums/media100/000424023001.htm. |
I have tried TDK and Sony tapes – the problem is
consistent.
Change of FireWire card solved the problem. |
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Clean video head on camcorder. |
Recommended by many in newsgroups. http://www.dv.com/db_area/community/Forum2/HTML/001455.html, or http://www.dv.com/db_area/community/Forum2/HTML/001495.html. Stay with one type of tape. In fact I have had more dropouts recently – and I have changed type of tape! Maybe I should switch back? |
I have a new Sony PC2e, so it is also unlikely this could be the problem. Purchase video head cleaner stuff from where?
Not nessesary - change of FireWire card solved
problem. |
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Stripe the tape |
Pre-recorded the entire tape with black lenscap prior to then using the tape. http://www.dv.com/db_area/community/Forum2/HTML/001495.html. |
Must be tested.
Didn't solve my problem. Might be relevant
anyway! |
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Bios update |
VIA Bios – not sure I understand recommendation - http://www.wwug.com/cgi-bin/setframe.pl?http://216.246.51.202/forums/uleadmediastudio/000623224453.htm. The VIA Bios is related to the harddisks. |
Probably not relevant. |
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De-interlace |
What should I do? What does it mean? |
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Noise from power supply? |
Is the FireWire card next to the power supply? http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?13@33.WxBXaGzPbcq%5E9@.eec0847/0. (Moving FireWire card to another position doesn’t really help, http://www.wwug.com/cgi-bin/setframe.pl?http://216.246.51.202/forums/uleadmediastudio/000623224453.htm). |
Move the FireWire card to another position?
Tried that - no change. |
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FireWire card problem? |
My colleague has purchased a machine with exactly the same configuration as mine, except that the FireWire card is a StudioDV FireWire card. He doesn’t have the problem! |
That fixed the problem. Changed the FireWire card to a Pinnacle System StudioDV. |
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Ignore the problem! |
Just ignore the problem! http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?13@33.WxBXaGzPbcq%5E7@.eec7464/0 |
Might be an option! |
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Fix the problem when editing. |
http://www.wwug.com/cgi-bin/setframe.pl?http://216.246.51.202/forums/avid_composer/000207060132.htm. I have tried just to remove the single noisy frame from the result. It is very hard to see any real difference (especially since I don’t have the right stuff due to the noise), so that might be a solution if it only occurs occationally. Alternatively, capture the tape twice and copy the noisy frame from the second capture! It is unlikely that it will “infected”. Couldn’t someone make a utility that could automate that? Would be beneficial. If cannot be that complex. Simply read through the capture and identify spots where the frames are not equal. In that situation pick the frame that is most identical to the previous (or consequetive) frame – how do you recognize that? |
Might be an option – not nice! It most be possible to create a simple utility that reads the captured file and remove all dropouts! Check if such a utility exists. Alternatively suggest that it is created. |
· http://www.dvereview.com/dveboard/messages/4388.html - Mozaic picture in capture
· http://groups.google.com/groups?q=DV+capture+noise&num=20&hl=en&safe=off&client=yhoo&rnum=3&ic=1&selm=93sngn%24ggd%241%40news.inet.tele.dk - w2k DV capture noise
· http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?50@205.Cx7fameubHh%5E3@.eecae4f - Static Hiss Ruins Capture
· http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?50@205.Cx7fameubHh%5E3@.eec7dfd - Noise in DV Capture
· http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?50@33.WxBXaGzPbcq%5E5@.eeca2c9 - Static Noise in DV Capture
· http://www.dv.com/db_area/community/Forum2/HTML/000175.html - Digital dropouts
· http://www.dv.com/db_area/community/Forum7/HTML/000103.html - DV dropouts
· http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digital_Video
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Last updated: July 21, 2001